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	<title>Comments on: British Medical Association labels gay conversion therapy harmful, discredited</title>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-4018</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really misinterpret the point being made by the others which is to accept all people for who they are.  Also you are very wrong about sexual orientation being a lifestyle, it is not a choice.  Lifestyle is a choice, you don&#039;t subconsciously buy tickets to a concert and somehow end up there with no intent to do so.  Just like I didn&#039;t wake up one morning and say &quot;you know what? I&#039;m going to be gay&quot;.  Who you have sex with is not a value, there is no moral difference whether you have sex with men or women, one is not better than the other. 
 
Lastly, in reply to everyone who believes that being gay is different, well you are right homosexual people are different to heterosexual people who are different to other heterosexual people, and homosexual&#039;s are different to each other as well EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, it keeps the world interesting.  However, my real point is that sexual orientation should not matter, I mean straight people don&#039;t figure they have to &quot;come out&quot; and tell everyone that they are straight, people don&#039;t feel they have to say things like &quot;I support you&quot; if you say that you&#039;re straight.  No one want&#039;s to be patronized, I&#039;m gay and very happy with myself, and I would like you to treat me with respect, but I don&#039;t expect or ask for different treatment than any other person you might come into contact with. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really misinterpret the point being made by the others which is to accept all people for who they are.  Also you are very wrong about sexual orientation being a lifestyle, it is not a choice.  Lifestyle is a choice, you don&#039;t subconsciously buy tickets to a concert and somehow end up there with no intent to do so.  Just like I didn&#039;t wake up one morning and say &quot;you know what? I&#039;m going to be gay&quot;.  Who you have sex with is not a value, there is no moral difference whether you have sex with men or women, one is not better than the other. </p>
<p>Lastly, in reply to everyone who believes that being gay is different, well you are right homosexual people are different to heterosexual people who are different to other heterosexual people, and homosexual&#039;s are different to each other as well EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, it keeps the world interesting.  However, my real point is that sexual orientation should not matter, I mean straight people don&#039;t figure they have to &quot;come out&quot; and tell everyone that they are straight, people don&#039;t feel they have to say things like &quot;I support you&quot; if you say that you&#039;re straight.  No one want&#039;s to be patronized, I&#039;m gay and very happy with myself, and I would like you to treat me with respect, but I don&#039;t expect or ask for different treatment than any other person you might come into contact with.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-4017</link>
		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 00:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol this guy is the stupidest person I have ever seen, posted a comment on an article saying how stupid posting comments on articles are.  I mean you have to feel bad for people who hate their lives so much they go around hating on the way other people conduct theirs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol this guy is the stupidest person I have ever seen, posted a comment on an article saying how stupid posting comments on articles are.  I mean you have to feel bad for people who hate their lives so much they go around hating on the way other people conduct theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bebo</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-4019</link>
		<dc:creator>Bebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sense making when type you helps....? All I know is that you are a complete and utter fool.  I assume you are christian and it is in no way a sin to be gay, however what is a sin is hatred, violence, and discrimination against any other person.  There are churches with gay ministers! You are the epitome of stupidity and bigotry and I hope you detest the firey hell that awaits you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sense making when type you helps&#8230;.? All I know is that you are a complete and utter fool.  I assume you are christian and it is in no way a sin to be gay, however what is a sin is hatred, violence, and discrimination against any other person.  There are churches with gay ministers! You are the epitome of stupidity and bigotry and I hope you detest the firey hell that awaits you.</p>
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		<title>By: mat</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-3936</link>
		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 06:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone knows dasa science invented by lunatics and SD is still spreading the madness ........... Why not invent a drug for pedophiles or thieves and fool? .... gay soldiers were the same then as the women? _e and then eject and women from the army) do not support gay men who have sex with anyone who arrive ........... But honestly love between man and man to support me (who do not support the sin has already been done sin  , and some are not trying to save your soul ... because it is already burning </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows dasa science invented by lunatics and SD is still spreading the madness &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. Why not invent a drug for pedophiles or thieves and fool? &#8230;. gay soldiers were the same then as the women? _e and then eject and women from the army) do not support gay men who have sex with anyone who arrive &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. But honestly love between man and man to support me (who do not support the sin has already been done sin  , and some are not trying to save your soul &#8230; because it is already burning</p>
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		<title>By: madcaphal</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-2247</link>
		<dc:creator>madcaphal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy clearly doesn&#039;t have a job. My excuse is that I&#039;m bored at work. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy clearly doesn&#039;t have a job. My excuse is that I&#039;m bored at work.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomedude</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-2245</link>
		<dc:creator>justsomedude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting comments to articles on the internet is the lamest thing ever. Completely pointless. I&#039;m only doing this because I&#039;m drunk. What&#039;s your excuse? Get a life and go live it, losers.  
 
You&#039;re long winded comments are a pathetic and feign attempt at trying to gain the attention of other people that wouldn&#039;t do so otherwise. You would be better off killing yourself, at least one person outside of the internet might care. 
 
BTW, Don&#039;t reply to this because there&#039;s no point. I will never check this ever again. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting comments to articles on the internet is the lamest thing ever. Completely pointless. I&#039;m only doing this because I&#039;m drunk. What&#039;s your excuse? Get a life and go live it, losers.  </p>
<p>You&#039;re long winded comments are a pathetic and feign attempt at trying to gain the attention of other people that wouldn&#039;t do so otherwise. You would be better off killing yourself, at least one person outside of the internet might care. </p>
<p>BTW, Don&#039;t reply to this because there&#039;s no point. I will never check this ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: H&#232;len Grives</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-2234</link>
		<dc:creator>H&#232;len Grives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, why all the excitement and heat? Lifestyle is not the point here. Sexuality is something you do not chose. It&#039;s about you and what you are. Even though the world might tell different. Besides that evolution is not planned. It happened and chose all kinds of possibilities. Many people don&#039;t want to believe that and still say that the lifestyle is harmful. But what really harmful is, is their denial of other peoples happiness and well being.  
 
If you are not allowed to accept yourself, than it is likely that this person suffers and develops mental disorders like depression. I myself grew up with a lot of gay people and although I noticed a difference, acceptation was never a question. Only when the outside world tries to impose views and believes; it becomes stressful. And so I came to the conclusion already at a very young age that most of the time people try to exclude, change or impose things on others. But  if they would let the other be, it would not change anything in their personal lives. Some wisdom is live and let be. Why because everyone wants the same security; that he does not have to deny himself. No one gets harmed.  
 
Thoughts are as powerful as dangerous. Nurture and culture are strong factors; but it also means that once you look around in the world, much of the ideas and believes are shattered. We don&#039;t live in Utopia and we have to deal with the knowledge that science reveals to us more and more. And that knowledge showed a different picture than that we have told each other for centuries. So being gay is nothing more than a diversity of life and at least one that isn&#039;t harmful to others. Like every normal respectable person isn&#039;t harmful to others. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, why all the excitement and heat? Lifestyle is not the point here. Sexuality is something you do not chose. It&#039;s about you and what you are. Even though the world might tell different. Besides that evolution is not planned. It happened and chose all kinds of possibilities. Many people don&#039;t want to believe that and still say that the lifestyle is harmful. But what really harmful is, is their denial of other peoples happiness and well being.  </p>
<p>If you are not allowed to accept yourself, than it is likely that this person suffers and develops mental disorders like depression. I myself grew up with a lot of gay people and although I noticed a difference, acceptation was never a question. Only when the outside world tries to impose views and believes; it becomes stressful. And so I came to the conclusion already at a very young age that most of the time people try to exclude, change or impose things on others. But  if they would let the other be, it would not change anything in their personal lives. Some wisdom is live and let be. Why because everyone wants the same security; that he does not have to deny himself. No one gets harmed.  </p>
<p>Thoughts are as powerful as dangerous. Nurture and culture are strong factors; but it also means that once you look around in the world, much of the ideas and believes are shattered. We don&#039;t live in Utopia and we have to deal with the knowledge that science reveals to us more and more. And that knowledge showed a different picture than that we have told each other for centuries. So being gay is nothing more than a diversity of life and at least one that isn&#039;t harmful to others. Like every normal respectable person isn&#039;t harmful to others.</p>
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		<title>By: madcaphal</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-2229</link>
		<dc:creator>madcaphal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, of course you&#039;d like that to be specific, because even as an anonymous internet name you are still a raging homophobe who would kill himself if someone thought he might be gay.  
 
I just can&#039;t answer you. You&#039;re obviously one of those guys that doesn&#039;t realise what a bigot he is, but almost everything you just said reveals your prejudice.  
 
&quot;who are you to say that a value doesn&#039;t pertain to the gender of a person?&quot;  
 
Well, I was born after 1920, for a start.  
 
Although I must admit a mistake of my own. Who you have sex with can be a lifestyle. For example if you don&#039;t know their names, or you do it with a lot of drugs, then that can be a lifestyle. I should have said: 
 
The gender of your sex partners - not a lifestyle. 
 
Just out of curiosity, where do you stand on the whole curing homosexulaity thing? 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, of course you&#039;d like that to be specific, because even as an anonymous internet name you are still a raging homophobe who would kill himself if someone thought he might be gay.  </p>
<p>I just can&#039;t answer you. You&#039;re obviously one of those guys that doesn&#039;t realise what a bigot he is, but almost everything you just said reveals your prejudice.  </p>
<p>&quot;who are you to say that a value doesn&#039;t pertain to the gender of a person?&quot;  </p>
<p>Well, I was born after 1920, for a start.  </p>
<p>Although I must admit a mistake of my own. Who you have sex with can be a lifestyle. For example if you don&#039;t know their names, or you do it with a lot of drugs, then that can be a lifestyle. I should have said: </p>
<p>The gender of your sex partners &#8211; not a lifestyle. </p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, where do you stand on the whole curing homosexulaity thing?</p>
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		<title>By: GregoryBMuzkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregoryBMuzkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol! Excellent point. I&#039;ve actually known a heterophobic person. He wasn&#039;t very happy as he put off a large piece of the population. 
The only way I can imagine this is if a whack-job couple from a gay community decided to purify the world of cooties from the opposing gender. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol! Excellent point. I&#039;ve actually known a heterophobic person. He wasn&#039;t very happy as he put off a large piece of the population.<br />
The only way I can imagine this is if a whack-job couple from a gay community decided to purify the world of cooties from the opposing gender.</p>
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		<title>By: GregoryBMuzkie</title>
		<link>http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/07/04/british-medical-association-labels-gay-conversion-therapy-harmful-discredited/#comment-2227</link>
		<dc:creator>GregoryBMuzkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of my values include having sex with women - that&#039;s for certain. I don&#039;t have sex, I have sex with women. I like to be that specific. 
 
I&#039;ll supplement this. 
 
Going out a lot and seeing live music - that&#039;s a lifestyle.  
Going out a lot and &lt;activity&gt; - that&#039;s a lifestyle 
&lt;activity&gt; can be replaced by &lt;looking at boobs&gt; 
 
Being rich and driving flash cars - that&#039;s a lifestyle. 
Being &lt;a description of a person&gt; and &lt;activity&gt; 
&lt;a description of a person&gt; can be replaced by &lt;a guy&gt; 
&lt;activity&gt; can be replaced by &lt;giving head&gt; 
 
Although my favourite part of your little rant is the part where you need a dictionary to tell you what something is and then take it literally word for word. Use your street smarts, dude. 
 
Furthermore, who are you to say that a value doesn&#039;t pertain to the gender of a person? I love my mother, she&#039;s a woman. I love women. Part of my values include respecting women, being friends with them, and occasionally sleeping with them. The same can go for another man who does the same with other men. 
 
What you&#039;re attempting to do is use a printed and accepted model of information, the Dictionary, to belittle a person&#039;s (Ronoman88&#039;s) views on the world and himself. 
 
And lastly, why must you be so rude? So rash? For shame.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of my values include having sex with women &#8211; that&#039;s for certain. I don&#039;t have sex, I have sex with women. I like to be that specific. </p>
<p>I&#039;ll supplement this. </p>
<p>Going out a lot and seeing live music &#8211; that&#039;s a lifestyle.<br />
Going out a lot and &lt;activity&gt; &#8211; that&#039;s a lifestyle<br />
&lt;activity&gt; can be replaced by &lt;looking at boobs&gt; </p>
<p>Being rich and driving flash cars &#8211; that&#039;s a lifestyle.<br />
Being &lt;a description of a person&gt; and &lt;activity&gt;<br />
&lt;a description of a person&gt; can be replaced by &lt;a guy&gt;<br />
&lt;activity&gt; can be replaced by &lt;giving head&gt; </p>
<p>Although my favourite part of your little rant is the part where you need a dictionary to tell you what something is and then take it literally word for word. Use your street smarts, dude. </p>
<p>Furthermore, who are you to say that a value doesn&#039;t pertain to the gender of a person? I love my mother, she&#039;s a woman. I love women. Part of my values include respecting women, being friends with them, and occasionally sleeping with them. The same can go for another man who does the same with other men. </p>
<p>What you&#039;re attempting to do is use a printed and accepted model of information, the Dictionary, to belittle a person&#039;s (Ronoman88&#039;s) views on the world and himself. </p>
<p>And lastly, why must you be so rude? So rash? For shame.</p>
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